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Connections: Debby Irving, author of Waking Up White

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How do Americans view the racial divide in this country? According to a new survey by the Pew Research Center, 58 percent of Americans say racism is a “big problem” in society. That’s up eight percentage points since 2015. But it leads to the question, why isn’t that number higher? Debby Irving is a white woman from New England who says she didn't fully understand the racial divide in this country until her adult life. Growing up in a wealthy Massachusetts family, she says she couldn’t see outside of her privileged bubble. That all changed when she took a graduate level course about racism and explored her own bias. Now, she’s a racial justice educator and author of the book, Waking Up White . Irving is in Rochester to share her story and offer workshops, but first, she joins us on Connections. Our guests: Debby Irving , racial justice educator, and author of Waking Up White Revered Joel Miller, interim senior minister at First Unitarian Church Frank Staropoli, leadership coach, and

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